Piper Twin Comanche Cost of Ownership: PA-30, PA-39 C/R and Turbo Variants Compared
This page compares the whole Twin Comanche family, the PA-30 and its B and C updates, the counter-rotating PA-39 C/R, and the turbocharged versions of each, so you can see which variant costs what before you shop. For a line-by-line budget of a standard 1963–1969 PA-30, see the PA-30 Twin Comanche cost of ownership page.
The Twin Comanche family at a glance
Piper built the Twin Comanche at Lock Haven, Pennsylvania, from the 1963 model year until the factory flooded in 1972. The last PA-30 was completed on November 5, 1969; the PA-39 carried the line to the end.
| Model | Years | Engines | Key difference | Lender age view |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| PA-30 Twin Comanche | 1963–1965 | Two 160 hp Lycoming IO-320-B1A | Four seats; the original | Pre-1970 |
| PA-30 Twin Comanche B | 1965–1968 | IO-320-B1A; Rajay turbonormalized IO-320-C1A optional | Extra cabin window each side, five or six seats | Pre-1970 |
| PA-30 Twin Comanche C | 1968–1969 | Same; turbo optional | New interior, higher cruise speed | Pre-1970 |
| PA-39 Twin Comanche C/R | 1970–1972 model years | Counter-rotating 160 hp IO-320s; turbo optional | No critical engine, modified wing leading edges; 155 built | 1970 and later |
Tip tanks were optional and bring total capacity to 120 gallons. Many airframes also carry later modifications, so treat the table as a guide to the original configuration and read the logbooks and Form 337s for what the airplane actually has now.
What does each Twin Comanche variant cost to run?
The table applies one set of planning assumptions to each variant at 100 hours a year: fuel at 17 gph, oil $4/hr, prop reserve $6/hr, unscheduled maintenance $35/hr, hangar $5,500 and subscriptions $1,500 a year. Overhaul costs, annual inspection and insurance figures are labeled assumptions, not quotes.
| Variant | Assumed overhaul / TBO | Engine reserve | Variable per hour | Fixed per year | Total at 100 hr | Per hour |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PA-30 / Twin Comanche B or C (normally aspirated) | $36,000 / 2,000 hr | $36/hr | $204 | $16,000 | $36,408 | $364 |
| Turbo Twin Comanche (Rajay IO-320-C1A) | $40,000 / 1,800 hr | $44/hr | $221 | $17,300 | $39,352 | $394 |
| PA-39 Twin Comanche C/R (normally aspirated) | $36,000 / 2,000 hr | $36/hr | $204 | $16,000 | $36,408 | $364 |
| PA-39 Turbo Twin Comanche C/R | $40,000 / 1,800 hr | $44/hr | $221 | $17,300 | $39,352 | $394 |
Turbo rows add an $8/hr turbo and exhaust parts allowance, a slightly higher annual and insurance assumption, and $300 a year for oxygen servicing. The normally aspirated PA-30 and PA-39 cost the same to run in this model; their differences are handling, scarcity and financing, covered below.
What the counter-rotating PA-39 changes
In a conventional twin, losing the left engine is worse than losing the right, because of asymmetric thrust from the descending propeller blades. The PA-39 turns its propellers in opposite directions, which removes that critical engine. The Twin Comanche had drawn attention for Vmc loss-of-control accidents in the 1960s and early 1970s; later reviews found it was not more prone to them than comparable twins, and better multi-engine training reduced them. The C/R answered the concern in hardware.
For the owner, the PA-39 brings three practical trade-offs:
- Scarcity. Only 155 PA-39s were built and about 80 were on the FAA registry in November 2019, so shopping takes longer and comparable sales are thin.
- Rotation-specific engine parts. Left-hand-turning IO-320 components are not interchangeable with standard ones. Ask your shop about lead times before you need a crankshaft or accessory.
- Financing. PA-39s are 1970-and-later aircraft, which fits the multi-engine age preference AOPA describes for its lenders.
Turbo Twin Comanches: what the Rajay turbos add to the budget
From the Twin Comanche B onward, Piper offered Rajay turbonormalizing on IO-320-C1A engines, extending the service ceiling to about 24,000 ft. The capability costs money in four places: a 1,800-hour TBO instead of 2,000 under Lycoming SI 1009, turbocharger overhauls and wastegate work, more exhaust-system inspection and repair, and an oxygen system you will need above 12,500 ft (crew after 30 minutes), above 14,000 ft (crew at all times) and above 15,000 ft (oxygen provided to every occupant) under 14 CFR 91.211. If you fly mostly below 10,000 ft, a normally aspirated airplane gives you the same airplane for less. For how TBO and calendar limits turn into reserves, see SMOH vs TBO explained.
Want numbers for your specific aircraft?
Share the aircraft and timeline — a financing specialist will come back with rate, term and down-payment options.
Financing across the family
As of September 2026, piston aircraft loan rates quoted by major aviation lenders generally start around 7% for well-qualified borrowers and run to roughly 10%. For twins, AOPA's guidance is 15–30% down and maximum terms of 10–15 years, and its lenders prefer multi-engine aircraft built in 1970 or later, with possible exceptions. AOPA has also said an older aircraft may be financed up to 70% or 75% of its value. The model year therefore shapes the loan more than the variant's operating cost does.
| Example | Price | Down | Loan | Term | Monthly P&I |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1967 PA-30 (pre-1970) | $110,000 | 30% | $77,000 | 10 years | $924 |
| 1971 PA-39 C/R | $140,000 | 20% | $112,000 | 15 years | $1,054 |
Most lenders look for a credit score of 680+, with the best pricing typically starting around 720–730+. Pricing any Twin Comanche is hard because sales are infrequent; get a Vref or Aircraft Bluebook value and a pre-buy from a shop that knows Comanches before you make an offer. The document list is in aircraft loan requirements, and down-payment sources are in aircraft down payment strategies.
Which Twin Comanche fits which owner?
- Lowest cost of entry, flying under 10,000 ft: a normally aspirated PA-30 B or C, bought with a larger down payment.
- Engine-out margin and easier financing: a PA-39 C/R, if you can find one and wait for the right airplane.
- Mountain or high-altitude travel: a turbo example, with the shorter TBO, turbo upkeep and oxygen in the budget.
- Six seats: B-and-later airframes with the optional fifth and sixth seats, remembering that useful load, not seat count, limits a light twin.
- Need real cabin room or more than about four adults: look at the Aztec or Seneca instead.
How this page differs from related pages
This page owns the comparison across the Twin Comanche family. The detailed annual budget for a standard 1963–1969 PA-30, its IO-320 engine economics and parts availability are on the PA-30 Twin Comanche cost of ownership page. The single-engine Comanche is covered on the Piper Comanche cost of ownership page and the Comanche buyer's guide. Newer light twins are budgeted on the PA-44 Seminole and Baron 55 pages; everything else is on the cost of ownership hub.
Frequently asked questions
What is the difference between a PA-30 and a PA-39 Twin Comanche?
The PA-39 Twin Comanche C/R has counter-rotating propellers, so neither engine is critical, plus modified wing leading edges. It was built for the 1970–1972 model years; only 155 were made, and about 80 remained on the FAA registry in 2019. The PA-30 (1963–1969) has both propellers turning the same way. Both use 160 hp Lycoming IO-320s.
How much does a Twin Comanche cost to own per year?
With this page's planning assumptions, a normally aspirated Twin Comanche costs about $36,408 a year to operate at 100 hours ($364 per hour) before any loan. A turbocharged example costs about $39,352, mostly because of a shorter TBO, turbo and exhaust upkeep and oxygen. Fuel at 17 gallons per hour is $123 of every hour.
What is the TBO on a Turbo Twin Comanche?
Lycoming Service Instruction 1009 lists 2,000 hours for the IO-320-B series used in normally aspirated Twin Comanches and 1,800 hours for the IO-320-C series used with the Rajay turbonormalizing installation. SI 1009 also recommends overhaul within 12 calendar years. Turbochargers may need separate attention before engine overhaul.
Is a PA-39 C/R easier to finance than a PA-30?
Usually. AOPA says its lenders prefer multi-engine aircraft built in 1970 or later, and every PA-39 meets that, while every PA-30 predates it. PA-30 buyers should expect a larger down payment (older aircraft may be financed up to 70% or 75%, per AOPA) and shorter terms. Standard twin guidance is 15–30% down and 10–15 years.
Are Twin Comanches safe?
The Twin Comanche picked up a reputation for loss-of-control accidents at or near minimum control speed (Vmc) during the 1960s and early 1970s. Later reviews concluded it was not more prone to them than comparable twins, and improved multi-engine training reduced such accidents. The PA-39 removed the critical engine entirely. Recurrent training with a Twin Comanche-experienced instructor is the best safety investment.
Do I need a high-performance endorsement for a Twin Comanche?
No. The high-performance endorsement in 14 CFR 61.31(f) applies to airplanes with an engine of more than 200 hp, and each Twin Comanche engine makes 160 hp. You do need a multiengine rating and a complex endorsement under 61.31(e), because the airplane has retractable gear, flaps and controllable-pitch propellers.